Thursday, December 14, 2006

The Ruling on Marriage Sites That Allow the Exchange of Personal Information and the Like



Question: There are many matrimonial websites that allow men and women to have live and private chats. They can exchange email, addresses, phone numbers and even pictures. Many of the women even describe their bodies. There are muslim men who use the excuse that they are entitled to more than one wife, and they use a lot of their spare time on these sites and as a result, they break up their households. Among those are those who lose interest in their present wives. Some will also get angry when their wives find out what they are doing , then threaten them with divorce and they even physically abuse them.Please advise us in this matter, May Allah bless you.

Answer: I say that this is a great calamity. Indeed this is a wicked act. It is an evil that comes from this technology (the internet) . What is mentioned in this question is not permissable for the men to be looking at these websites and the likes of this. As for a person who says that he is using these sites so he can get married, if he wants to get married, indeed the Prophet sallallahu alayhe was salaam has guided us on how a person should go and choose a wife. That he should look at her and find what encourages him to marry her in a legislated way. Not following his desires. No doubt that the way the people use the internet to look at women like this, it is something that is not permissable. This way is haraam. It is made unlawful by the legislation, so therefore stay away from it.

What is a permissable way for a man to look at a woman is supported by the text. For example he should look at her hands and her face.if she agrees to that. And also he may look at her while she's walking without her knowing that he's looking at her. Perhaps if she's walking on the street, and hes standing in one spot, he may look at her and the likes of this. But as for the people looking at these websites on the internet, then it is not only impermissable but it brings a lot of evil impact. Because it is not just the look, it may lead to conversation, because the questioner states that they may exchange emails and phone numbers and they may start talking. And this may lead them to speech that is not right for them wa 'authoobila they may fall into adultery and fornication. This is just from their speech, but what about those who exchange pictures and addresses through the internet. This is a great calamity and affliction. A person should stay away from it, because it can lead the one who sees these pictures of the women, it will make him dislike his wife and have desires to be with those women on the internet. Allah subhana wa ta'alaa has ordered the believers to lower their gazes. Allah says :

قُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَغُضُّوا مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِمْ وَيَحْفَظُوا فُرُوجَهُمْ ذَلِكَ أَزْكَى لَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا يَصْنَعُونَ

"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.). That is purer for them. Verily, Allâh is All-Aware of what they do."[An-Nur 24:30]

The point in preference here is that this act is not permissable. It is incumbent upon the muslim to fear his lord and he should not look at what is impermissable for him to look at. The Prophet sallallahu alayhe was salaam was asked about the second look. If a person didn't have any desire to look, the Prophet sallallahu alayhe was salaam said "If this happened then you need to turn your eyes from that." So for example if a woman comes out and some parts of her are exposed (accidentally) and a person didnt desire to look, but he looked the first time, then the first is ok, but the second will be counted against him.

So if this is the case, what about those who sit in front of the internet and chat with these women who it's not permissable to talk to? Sending pictures and exchanging pictures, what will they say to Allah subhana wa ta'alaa on yawm al qiyamah? Again this is not permissable. It is an unlawful act. It is wicked and horrendous and a despicable act that destroys households. It seperates the spouses. And this is enough that this evil here destroys the households, that it is sufficient for it to be labeled as an evil and despicable act. So it is incumbent on every muslim who is listening, or to whom this message reaches to fear Allah subhana wa ta'alaa, and to stay away from those websites and chatrooms because this isn't permissable.

Q & A Sheykh Muhammad ibn Hadee al Madkhaalee -hafidthuallah
November 26, 2006
Translated by Abu Muhammad al Maghrebee
Telelink - Masjid Rahmah

8 Comments:

At 9:09 PM, Anonymous balanced view said...

Salaam

My intent was say things that might make other blogging sisters upset , and well, I guess many of them are already uncomfortable with a what you have written.

Salaam

 
At 9:34 PM, Blogger mizazeez said...

wa 'alaykum assalaam. balanced view: are you a sister or a brother?

and as far as saying things that might make other sister bloggers upset, masha'Allah, if you are speaking the haqq, enjoining the good and forbidding the evil then wallahi you should say what you have to say even if it may be something that the people may have trouble hearing or accepting. the truth is the truth. we are all prone to mistakes likewise we all are prone to being corrected and led aright. wallaahu 'alim.

 
At 11:32 PM, Blogger excowife said...

to mizazeez:

BarakAllaahufeek! I'm so glad someone has spoken out about this and given scholary proof. This problem is soooo widespread, and sooo many brothers (and sisters) do this and subhaanAllaah how dangerous this is, especially for a married brother. Personally, I believe that a married brother who does this is disrespecting his family, and is a victim of low eemaan and is distracting himself from it by constantly talking to "potential wives" online. It is most likely a disease of the heart from the dunya, as he's incapable of letting go of "checking out" women and seeing all women as potential (and Allahu'alam). Only now it's under the guise of marriage (and Islam). Why not discreetly talk to Muslim family, close friends, or the imam of his community if he's really looking for a wife?

Unfortunately, the brothers' wives are told "this is the sunnah" and treated as if their problem is with the sunnah. And women sit back and convince themselves that this is okay, b/c "afterall, polygyny is from Islam."

This practice, I believe, is one of the gravest attacks upon the beautiful sunnah of polygyny in Islam! May Allah return us to our religion.

 
At 11:47 PM, Blogger Dunia's Stranger said...

good thing you posted about this... I suspected those sites from the begining and found it absurd that brothers would actually end up looking for their 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th wife on such sites.

But the real question I have is that if the brothers' wife finds out, why would they get really defensive? Is there a element of guilt on their part since they know they are engaging in haram acts?

I'm assuming the Shaykh made the sites haram for all, brothers and sisters, whether they are single or married, but for single Muslims or new Muslims living in a community where there are few or no Muslims, these sites offer at least a starting point to look for a marriage partner.

Not all Muslims live in New York City with so many Muslims... some live in New Paltz (pop. 6,034) instead. What does a person who became a Muslim by themselves in the middle of nowhere do if they are interested in getting married?

 
At 6:41 AM, Blogger mizazeez said...

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At 6:45 AM, Blogger mizazeez said...

sister excowife: i definitely hear you on this being a problem amongst many households of the Ummah and rightfully so. it's interesting how people will accept that we need to lower our gaze when it comes to being in the actual physical presence of the opposie sex but then those same people can sit in front of a television or computer screen and watch images of the opposite sex many times exposing their awrah with no problem. technology is not devoid of having the Shari'ah applied to it.

dunia's stranger: as far as halal options of seeking marriage for someone who lives in a community where Muslims are scarce or non-existant, masha'Allah, this is a problem we face in the US. there is one marriage site i know of that does not allow pictures and a sister's wali has to sign up on her behalf and basically if a brother is interested in a the written profile of a sister he would contact her wali not her. a brother on the blogosphere actually wrote about the site. it is smatch.net.

also, one could join Muslim listservs and online groups where they could post that they are interested in getting married and try to network that way. i am a part of a few online sister's groups where sisters actually sent in emails seeking spouses for their husband or for their husband's friend or something like this.

we really do have to come up with a better system though of helping brothers and sisters find potential spouses in a halal way.

 
At 6:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i agree thats its not right to sit there under the guise of 'looking for a wife' and actualy be chitchatting with every other female. And yes, there's a sign there's guilt if the guy is upset w/ his wife. I mean why cant they search together if he's truly interested?

However, I have to disagree with one point mentioned in the point. I am in no place to disrespect a scholar so please know that this is not disrespect. Rather, difference of opinion is a reality and is respected when its legitimate. I can't quote him cuz his quote isnt in front of me..but i got hte impression he's saying the two prospectives should not talk.

IF thats what he is saying, I don't know that to be the case. What about the man who came to talk to the woman directly and her mahr became his islam? What about the Prophet speaking to Umm Salmah(was it?) about how he's old too, and he'll make dua for her jealousy, and that her kids are his kids.
Ofcourse, if yur not alone, then its more permissible to talk.
But I guess the bottomline is, there's adab to do it and better to never talk alone.

 
At 7:33 AM, Blogger mizazeez said...

anonymous: jazak Allahu khair for commenting. regarding your disagreement, the shaykh was not saying that prospective spouses should not communicate AT ALL, just that there communicating PRIVATELY online is forbidden. he even stated that part of the legislated way in which a man and a woman who are seeking to marry get to know one another and see if they are interested is to see one another in person (of course in the presence of the sister's wali or someone similar)

 

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